Mixx vs. Digg, a new opinion!

[Blogging4Bucks]

Okay so this is not likely going to be what most of the readers want to hear, but I feel I must express this to someone and here is as good as a place as any.

I started using mixx over digg some time back. Digg had canceled my account for reasons unknown to me. When I emailed and asked, they told me I was digging inappropriate articles according to their TOS (this was of course total crap but whatever)....

However on mixx, its even worse. My newest site http://blogging4bucks.justfree.com is seemingly blacklisted or banned or whatever you want to call it. I got no explanation of it at all. When submitting my URL I get "The URL you are attempting to submit is not valid on our system".

I gave mixx the benefit of the doubt and figured it to be a bug. So I used the feedback form to try to get some help and perhaps get this resolved. I sent that email 15 days ago, still on reply! Even Digg was not that rude! They at least replied to me!

Whats worse is I didn't give up with just the feedback form. I directly emailed mixx at feedback@mixx.com as was posted on twitter. I got no reply! I sent a direct message via twitter, no reply! I sent 2 more messages via the feedback form. Still no reply.

I have not even received an automated reply confirming that my email was received. I have got 0 response. I have 3 people asking me already if there is a problem with MY site because of it. People think if mixx won't accept my URLs then I must be doing something wrong... spyware, adware, virus, what have you. I assure them this is not the case but when I have no reason to give on whats going on, they still are doubting me. After all I am a new website and mixx is a proven quality social bookmark site, it must be on my end (this is honestly the logic I am getting in my emails).

I am at my witts end. The customer service on mixx is the worst I have seen from any social site (hell even myspace replies quicker then that and they have 100x the amount of users). I really don't know if I should give up on mixx altogether or sit back and wait and hope they eventually reply/fix it.

I suppose the thing to do is to just write them off as not a quality site and if someone eventually does answer then deal with it at that point.... I just don't know.... I love mixx really, its hard to give them up but at the same time why should I stay using it if my site is banned....

[DarkNemesis618]

Well maybe if you didn't digg up what is probably the SEO and blogging for money shit that Diggers (and myself) despise you wouldn't get kicked off.

Now while Mixx feedback is normally pretty good, maybe the fact that you're complaining that what we mixxers hate seeing on the site...your domain is probably blacklisted and after I saw it, I'm not at all surprised. We at Mixx like to see good quality stories, we really don't care about how you can make a million bajillion dollars blogging because its unrealistic and pretty much borderline spam. If we want to learn how to make money blogging we'll use Google because hey, if someone can try to fool us into thinking we can making tons of money blogging, they can probably do a bit with SEO. Oh and by the way...your site's SEO sucks...I can't even find it in a google search.

By the way, how does making money blogging pay for the following:

Health Insurance
Dental Insurance
401k contributions
retirement planning

Oh wait, i don't really care

And why pray tell do you claim that you can make money blogging and support yourself when at the bottom of your damned page you ask for donations? WTF is up with that?

[DarkNemesis618]

By the way...go ahead and leave Mixx...I beg you too...we won't miss you

[Blogging4Bucks]

Well thanks for the reply, sorta. You are very nice =/

First of all, my blog borderlines a spam blog? If it were not for your comment about my donations at the bottom of every page, I would doubt you even visited my blog. My posts are not spam posts, my layout is not slammed with advertising, and my articles are all original. I teach people how to set up blogs, I teach them how to add advertising so there are not 10,000 useless ads on the page, I teach people how to add products to their posts without spamming, I teach them of useful plugins so they aren't sending out mass pings, but sense I talk about blogging for cash, I must be a spam blog.

But thats okay because I still do have a valid account on mixx so I am going to test how well your logic holds up. How? Well I will start adding article I KNOW are about blogging for cash that are from sources that are likely NOT to get banned.

How about starting with Wired tech news http://www.wired.com/techbiz/media/news/2003/07/59603?currentPage=all (nice article about blogging for cash)

or perhaps a bizreport.com article http://www.bizreport.com/2006/10/blogging_for_bucks.html

Maybe even a new york daily news article http://www.nydailynews.com/money/2009/02/23/2009-02-23_blogging_for_bucks_how_pros_get_paid_for.html

then there is techcrunch http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/09/22/technorati-survey-says-the-average-blog-makes-6000-a-year/

I could go on all day. These are newspapers and magazine articles who all talk about blogging for cash. They all talk about how profitable it is. They are not a single one trying to spam anyone.

My point is simple, you are judging my blog because its a "making money blogging" style blog and that is not fair. My articles are not teaching how to spam. My articles are not talking about how to get paid reading emails or how to pull the fastest scam before everyone else jumps on the bandwagon. My articles are original and are articles that teach people the realities of blogging.

Do I make money, yes. Does that means suddenly I am going to remove my donate link? Hell no. That's actually one of my number 1 sources of income. I get nearly $200/day sent to my paypal across 6 blogs.

And what of my SEO? You are talking about a blog less then 1 month old. It doesn't even qualify for a PR at this point. Its traffic count is only just beginning to hit 60 users a day. I am not worried about SEO this soon in the game. But honestly I am wasting typing space even typing this. Your attitude about the entire thing is just crap.

You couldn't be polite at all? You couldn't say "hey we don't allow these types of blogs but feel free to continue using the service and we welcome any other blogs you may have".

So now I have to go fix a recent post on one of my other blogs where I recommend people try this service over digg. I will have to recommend people NOT use this service and explain to them that mixx doesn't like bloggers who are professionals (almost 50% of bloggers) and you may find yourself banned for having advertising on your page/blog or for making posts with advertising (regardless how tactful it is done). Perhaps I should post the same posting across all my blogs, maybe send out some press releases on the subject offering an alternative, send out some articles on free article sites, and see if I can't get over 1000 bloggers to never use this service.

And why would I do that? Because the people on Mixx are obviously as snotty, as rude, and as egotistical as they come. Now assuming you don't censor/remove this post (obviously censoring things is what mixx and its power users do best) I will let people see first hand how the average mixx users problem is handled. Its clearly defined in this posting.

But at least now I know why I am blacklisted, for having a professional blog. Thanks a lot mixx!

[DarkNemesis618]

You just made my point...the websites you listed are from trusted sources that have proven themselves and are not there to SOLELY sell people on blogging for cash.

And as for professional bloggers, thats not the case, we just don't like being spammed with get rich quick schemes.

Based on the number of blind voters who will vote up anything, you'll probably get some votes...sadly though, for about every 20 votes, you'll get maybe 1-2 visits. Abandon all logic all ye who enter here.

As for reccomendations, the people you're recommending mixx to, are probably not the kind we want to see here.

[Blogging4Bucks]

Well at least this post was not rude. Perhaps now that you are talking to me I can explain something. I hate people selling on get rich quick scams. My blog makes this painfully obvious. Yes I can teach you how to blog for cash but I also am the first to admit you can't start a blog and expect to see cash. My blog says the same thing in fact. I admit it will take a year or more to successfully create a blog that will generate any sort of substantial income.

I set this blog up BECAUSE of all the get rich quick crap. I have been blogging for a number of years. I started out in the adult world when it was in its baby stages and short of a few personal journals nothing else existed. I know its not easy to market a website/blog and there is no fast way of doing it. I know buying keywords usually costs more then it brings in, spam comments don't work, spam doesn't work, spam blogs don't work, and most SEO techniques don't work. I know that time and content is everything. I teach this everyday on that blog. There is nothing anywhere that says "hey sell this and you'll be rich tomorrow" or "signup for this and tomorrow you'll see money" SCREW THAT!

THAT is why I am upset that my blog is banned. Because I am trying to show people that yes you can blog and you can make a lot of money doing it, but its not going to happen in three easy steps and you can't quit your job and start a blog and expect to see money. It takes a lot of time and a lot of patience and a lot of trial and error. What I teach is how to start the blog, how to set it up so you AREN'T a spam blog with useless links and advertising everywhere, so you AREN'T trying to sell people useless crap. I teach people how they can create a blog about, say, puppies, and then generate income with that, and build traffic for it.

I know most blogs that say blogging for bucks are get rich quick schemes, but I don't see my blog in any shape or form as being like them.

[kat136]

Okay so this is not likely going to be what most of the readers want to hear, but I feel I must express this to someone and here is as good as a place as any.

I started using mixx over digg some time back. Digg had canceled my account for reasons unknown to me. When I emailed and asked, they told me I was digging inappropriate articles according to their TOS (this was of course total crap but whatever)....

However on mixx, its even worse. My newest site http://blogging4bucks.justfree.com is seemingly blacklisted or banned or whatever you want to call it. I got no explanation of it at all. When submitting my URL I get "The URL you are attempting to submit is not valid on our system".

I gave mixx the benefit of the doubt and figured it to be a bug. So I used the feedback form to try to get some help and perhaps get this resolved. I sent that email 15 days ago, still on reply! Even Digg was not that rude! They at least replied to me!

Whats worse is I didn't give up with just the feedback form. I directly emailed mixx at feedback@mixx.com as was posted on twitter. I got no reply! I sent a direct message via twitter, no reply! I sent 2 more messages via the feedback form. Still no reply.

I have not even received an automated reply confirming that my email was received. I have got 0 response. I have 3 people asking me already if there is a problem with MY site because of it. People think if mixx won't accept my URLs then I must be doing something wrong... spyware, adware, virus, what have you. I assure them this is not the case but when I have no reason to give on whats going on, they still are doubting me. After all I am a new website and mixx is a proven quality social bookmark site, it must be on my end (this is honestly the logic I am getting in my emails).

I am at my witts end. The customer service on mixx is the worst I have seen from any social site (hell even myspace replies quicker then that and they have 100x the amount of users). I really don't know if I should give up on mixx altogether or sit back and wait and hope they eventually reply/fix it.

I suppose the thing to do is to just write them off as not a quality site and if someone eventually does answer then deal with it at that point.... I just don't know.... I love mixx really, its hard to give them up but at the same time why should I stay using it if my site is banned....

Okay, well the first thing you should know is that the MixxingBowl is an entirely separate site from Mixx. It's created and operated by users who have been with Mixx from the beginning, and who incidentally have seen every scam on the internets. So yeah, prolly not the best place to post your hissy fit.

Now, as for your blog--I'll be honest, if I'd seen that, I would have down voted and reported it as spam. No offense, but there are literally millions of blogs like yours, and frankly I'm tired of seeing them clog up the site.  I don't have a blog or a website. I use Mixx for social NEWS and the community, which is awesome. Unless you're a spammer or trying to use the site for "traffic".

As a regular user of Mixx as a social NEWS site, it is not humanly possible for me to care any less about blogging, SEO, web traffic, whining bloggers, and all that crap. Now, I'm not an admin of Mixx, but I'm going to hazard a guess here that the reason your domain got blacklisted is because of the name itself--blogging4bucks.justfree really does just scream "SPAM!!!"  You're supposed to be web-savvy--think about it, dude.  And I think there is a non-solicitation clause in the Mixx TOU...I'm not sure your blog violates it, but it's pretty close. I'm assuming you read that, right?

So, to sum it up, here's how I feel about this crap:



Oh, and PS: You know what they say--opinions are like assholes. Everybody has one.

[cGt2099]

@Blogging4Bucks

Your material is spam.  That is all. 

[Blogging4Bucks]

I love that mixx and the users on this forum are insistent that my blog is spam, yet 3/4 of my posts don't even attempt to make any sales or sell anything. In fact (my blog is very new) out of my first 20 posts only 5 of them sell anything.

But honestly, I really could care less at this point. If mixx doesn't want my site listed, so be it. It just means I have to use mixx a little different for marketing my site. If I can't follow the rules and do it the proper way I will go blackhat method and use it for cross social bookmark exchanges.

[Bdog2g2]

I love that mixx and the users on this forum are insistent that my blog is spam, yet 3/4 of my posts don't even attempt to make any sales or sell anything.

Spam isn't always selling anything.  In fact 9/10 of the things these guys on this forum would consider spam ARE NOT selling anything.  Its low quality, copy-pasta blogs, stolen content, half-assed thought out posts that mainly contain posts on blogging about blogging, or its some "social media expert" or "marketing expert" trying to tell everyone how they're doing it wrong.  Your last comment about blackhatting is basically validation of my last point.

If I can't follow the rules and do it the proper way I will go blackhat method and use it for cross social bookmark exchanges.

Please do this, PLEASE!!!!! Then we'll not have to worry about you at all.  You apparently cannot read the TOS and on this forum you admit you will try to misuse mixx.  The fact that you're so fervently pushing this entire thing so much pretty much speaks "I'm a desperate marketer trying to get my content on the front page".

No worries, I'll pass along your information to Mixx.

[SilentJay74]

Blogging4bucks:

[Mixx Kerry]

I love that mixx and the users on this forum are insistent that my blog is spam, yet 3/4 of my posts don't even attempt to make any sales or sell anything. In fact (my blog is very new) out of my first 20 posts only 5 of them sell anything.

Just as we did in feedback mail, we'll point out to you again, that it is against the Mixx TOU to post to Mixx anything that is attempting to sell a product or service.

By your own admission, 1/4th of your blog is doing exactly that.

I'm sorry, but we stand by our system's blockade of this URL.

If your other blogs are not trying to seel a good or service, you are welcome to submit them.

-Kerry

[Tau_Zero]

[HarryJackson]

Digg and Mixx both are leading social media sites if you say that how is better then i will prefer digg just because of getting good results from it.

[moore478]

Digg and Mixx both are leading social media sites if you say that how is better then i will prefer digg just because of getting good results from it.

How can you say one is leading than the other one? If just by getting results, sure do a lot of people had different results. It depends on what they do at the social network and what results they wanted. If you will also ask each and every users, you will get different opinions. If by number of users, may be or maybe not, that also depends on how many users are active at a time. Ahhh... social media will drive you crazy.